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welcome to skeptical where we explore

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controversial science and spirituality

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with leading researchers thinkers and

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their critics I'm your host Alex seekers

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and as many of you know one of the goals

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of this show is to push past the stuck

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on stupid discussion around extended

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consciousness and that's really where

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science has pushed us hasn't it I mean

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let's take past life regression for

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example science would of course dismiss

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the entire phenomena with a wave of the

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hand and maybe a little gibberish about

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extraordinary claims require

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extraordinary proof worse yet

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we'd be told as we often are that it's

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actually a scam perpetrated by greedy

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New Agers who are looking to exploit the

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weak and gullible so how do we push past

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that blockade that the pseudo skeptics

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have built well first of all I'd suggest

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that you need the right kind of guests

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and I'm thinking and hoping that we

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might have just that kind of guest today

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Kathy Mingo is a psychic in a medium in

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the UK she specializes in past life

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regression and shamanic healing work

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she's going to tell us what that means

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she comes to us highly recommended by

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her friend Claire Broad who documents

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her own rather amazing experience with

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Kathy in her new book and as a special

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bonus as Kathy and I were just chatting

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about kathy has been brave enough and

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but she is agreed to try and do some

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kind of demonstration I don't know how

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it's gonna turn out she's never done

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anything like this we're not like trying

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to test her in any way because she said

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I've never done anything like that but I

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thought since her work is kind of

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unusual and unique that just to get

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people to give all of you and me a sense

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for what it's about we might do a

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demonstration so with all that Kathy

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welcome to skeptic oh and thank you so

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much for joining me

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well thanks Alex and thanks for having

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me and kind to everyone let's get to Co

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listening well great

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awesome you know as I explained to you I

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kind of have evolved into playing this

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little game that I call got to coach

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jeopardy and this one since my

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introduction was kind of limited I think

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the natural place to start is with you

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and okay Cathy Mingo okay well I'm just

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right ordinary person that just happens

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to do what some people call an

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extraordinary job I don't think it is I

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just think what I do is very natural I

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do need to put caveat and I don't

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actually call myself a medium but when I

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mean someone's already filled so that's

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what I would do I work through someone's

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bioplasmic or a field so the energy

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around the body or the aura and by just

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as a by-product sometimes quite often

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people that have passed over come in to

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say hello so it's literally it's a

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byproduct of what I do can I jump in

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there with the question because I think

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that there is you say that in such a

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matter-of-fact way no it's great

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it's great I love that because that's

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where we want to go but I think then we

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need to step back and say what is your

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understanding of an aura how am I your

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understanding of an aura be different

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than you know some of the other stuff

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people and they talk about auras or or a

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cameras or being you know do you have

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any understandings of that that are

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different than what people might

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normally encounter and then related to

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that why do you think that's real when

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did that come into your experience that

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there is such a thing okay there's a

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I can so I was trained as a past life

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that's where my training came from so I

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the medium had not shown up that day so

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I was asked would you fill in and I

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thought like I'm doing with this I kind

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of thought I have to try everything I'm

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like that I I'm kind of off the hook so

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I will give anything a go no harm no

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all I know and all I could understand

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that I needed him to do was to lie down

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so I could go through his auric field I

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see it as a field of quantum energy

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around the body that houses information

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holographic sphere if you will let me

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push on that a little bit further

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because I'm just really interested when

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because that's how you were trained I

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wasn't trained in it at all so what was

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that experience like then I mean that

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that whole experience

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we could probably deconstruct it's it's

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incredibly interesting I mean first of

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all how do you wind up in a class for

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past life regression question my whole

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life my whole life has been a series of

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entwined synchronicities but had I not

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listen to that would have I wouldn't be

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where I am now so I'm very open on if

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I'm guided by the universal flow if you

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will I'll always go with it so I was I

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would do aggressive it I was I'm a

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crappie I'm a crop circle fan so I was

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in Wiltshire on top of the hill I didn't

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know what I was doing with my life and I

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literally put my hands up to universe

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can you like give me a bit of a clue I

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of my um flats through the door through

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was an invitation to do past life

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regression therapy so I called them and

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I went I have no idea how you've got my

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address because I never signed up for

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this the woman searched and she went

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you're not actually on my database so

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are we great I'll sign up because I just

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thought that was I'd asked so I went and

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that was what I initially did okay so I

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fantastical definitely it does

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correspond with so many stories we've

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brave enough to always follow those

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synchronicities as I think sometimes we

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look back and go wow

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is it is no doubt a profound coincidence

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I'd even let's we're gonna keep peeling

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back the layers here when you say you're

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a crappie and yeah you know IIIi

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appreciate that on one hand on the other

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hand it's like no dammit I mean it seems

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to be something very very important to

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you and the larger question of what's

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important we've done a couple of shows

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their assumed origin are yes he comes

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down in his craft and get back to

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something that so many people have

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connection to extended consciousness it

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even comes through being in these crop

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extended realm whatever that extending

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physical realm and they're so I guess we

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do have to peel back there and say what

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circle is and what is your connection to

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crop circles okay so my belief system

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contentious subject crop circles

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itself there are some that are

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crop circle make it some of them are not

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so I will get told off from the man-made

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fiction that say they're all man-made

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in too perhaps as there is with

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of the things that I learned when I

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is even the distinctions you're making

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become very blurred in terms of paid

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versus not man-made because what we

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found is when we really go push the

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people who admit to them being man-made

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they say yeah it was man-made but you

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in the morning and I had this image that

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I should go this jig this complex

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geometric image that I should go put in

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a field and I did it now is that

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is laid down physically but I know that

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consciousness that happens within crop

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circles man may crop circles many of the

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normal but let's just call it paranormal

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they have things that happen cameras

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don't work they do have I have

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manifested the crop circle myself but I

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man-made conscious as one of them one of

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said that he's God's pencil I love that

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because they wherever they lives come

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and important point there because would

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different direction and does the et

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explanation and I don't want to get away

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from the et explanation because we want

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to we don't know what that means either

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you know we might want to go to what if

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experience for you that was associated

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with you being in this crop circle or

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or experience absolutely absolutely my

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whole spiritual existence I think into

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over in synchronicity

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because I may be the area that the crop

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circles are in as well which is very

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special which is the Wiltshire landscape

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there's there's that interwoven with it

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circle that day which was a beauty there

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was a lot of transcendent energy that

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lost crop and everything else that goes

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slip I thought there I'm not saying

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alien I'm just saying you can sometimes

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lose time in a way that I think it's

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very meditative it's it is transformer

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transformative I think it's almost

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metaphoric that would be mine so when I

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stood there on that hill which was on

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milk Hill which is being very famous

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crop circles and put my arms up I didn't

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expect that the answer would be you know

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we expect an answer right away don't we

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like you know God's gonna come down with

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whoever and give us this great answer

284
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but sometimes time doesn't work like

285
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that so I had to look at this leaflet

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from this past life regression college

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which I'd never even contacted I felt

288
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right well I need to go down that route

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which I did so pick it back up on your

290
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story this is great stuff Cathy I

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thought this is a great stuff so picking

292
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back up in the story incredible

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coincidence right there's the lease you

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call up your name isn't even on the list

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on the list okay knock three times I'm

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answering and then the further

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coincidence that you're in a class and I

298
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mean it just would sound bizarre if we

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didn't have

300
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rest of the story that the teacher would

301
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pick up and leave one day and say Kathy

302
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you take over and you would proceed to

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just kind of do this auric kind of thing

304
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yeah you don't even know that you're

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trained to do but it doesn't have

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happens the other thing I find

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interesting I'd like you to kind of

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expand upon a little bit is that you

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seem to process this as energy and that

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you even through quantum energy and

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we're not even going to go there because

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we don't know exactly what that means

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but I take it that that's how you are

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experiencing this you're not

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experiencing the voice of God you didn't

316
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see the Virgin Mary you didn't see gee

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you don't see any of that you saw lights

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and energy around a person what do you

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think that means

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number one and number two how has that

321
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kind of unfolded and proven itself to

322
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you as your practice is going on you've

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worked now with hundreds or I don't know

324
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thousands appear yeah I mean or is a

325
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it's not with your great words for it

326
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either to be fair but so when this sum

327
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when this man all I knew was that to

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work in this man's energy he needed to

329
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lie down for some reason and I knew I

330
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needed to I don't touch I just put my

331
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hands over and he's lying there I didn't

332
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know this man from Adam and I could I

333
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went on and on about this I said to him

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you've got pins in your neck down your

335
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neck down your spine and he went Kathy I

336
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haven't and usually I would have gone

337
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though I've got this wrong I couldn't

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let it go so I went I couldn't let it go

339
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and I kept saying it we talked to his

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grandfather blah blah I didn't think

341
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anything of it

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and literally about 48 hours late he got

343
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hit by a truck because he was a

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motorcyclist and the next time he came

345
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to me everywhere that these pins had

346
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been I felt and seen where they actually

347
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were physically so that kind of blew my

348
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mind a bit blew his mind as well because

349
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the next time he came to see me was in

350
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one of those great big head halos so I

351
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don't know how to explain that well you

352
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know there's two parts of that is one is

353
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how you would explain it and then to I

354
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guess that's what you're saying when you

355
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say

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how would you explain it the other part

357
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of it is what are the implications of

358
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that and that's what I was kind of so I

359
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want to break that down a little bit for

360
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folks cuz that's what I was alluding to

361
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in the intro to the show and sometimes

362
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people think it just sounds like an

363
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angry rant or something like that ya

364
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know that it's it's not really that it's

365
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like we have to really understand how

366
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we've been blocked from really asking

367
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questions in a deeper way and that's

368
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what we're going to try and do now we're

369
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going to try and wrestle some hunches

370
00:16:05,930 --> 00:16:02,580
out of you you don't have to have the

371
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complete answer like but you have a

372
00:16:11,870 --> 00:16:09,540
hunch you know because once we say okay

373
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there is something there that we want to

374
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dig into there's a bunch of questions

375
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that fall from that like what is our

376
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relationship to time was a natural thing

377
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about that the other is this whole

378
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question of healing I mean there's

379
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questions about healing that I don't see

380
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ask very much at all I mean from a

381
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spiritual perspective yeah why healing

382
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why do we need to heal should we heal

383
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are we on a healing path or not on a

384
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healing path what does that mean what is

385
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your role in that why do you need to be

386
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involved in that you know I mean you're

387
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God's pencil well maybe here's God's

388
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plan is for someone to be healed or not

389
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healed I mean there are a million

390
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questions there I don't even care which

391
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one we start with but since i teed it up

392
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what does that experience that you just

393
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described

394
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tell us about time I think it tells us

395
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that well for me at least see I

396
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struggled with the concept of time

397
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especially within New York field like

398
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past future it's so finite isn't it and

399
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we're dealing with

400
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I think infinity for me energy is energy

401
00:17:24,530 --> 00:17:22,500
it's infinite but time places is

402
00:17:26,990 --> 00:17:24,540
constriction but something's in the past

403
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or something's in the future but when

404
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when he was lying there obviously in our

405
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cup Oriole sense I was going into what I

406
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call the future but for him this might

407
00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:38,550
be a bit controversial but I do believe

408
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that the auric field is like a book and

409
00:17:43,850 --> 00:17:42,270
if you read a book you can read the

410
00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:43,860
front or the back can't you you can go

411
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straight to the back and know the ending

412
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or I believe in the

413
00:17:52,789 --> 00:17:49,940
more than I'm starting to do energy work

414
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that's what we're dealing with some sort

415
00:18:00,110 --> 00:17:58,409
of information packet like a SIM card so

416
00:18:01,610 --> 00:18:00,120
I was just going a little bit forward

417
00:18:03,919 --> 00:18:01,620
into the information because I couldn't

418
00:18:05,470 --> 00:18:03,929
have been known that I should have said

419
00:18:07,340 --> 00:18:05,480
to him don't go on your motorbike

420
00:18:08,990 --> 00:18:07,350
because you're going that but I didn't

421
00:18:10,610 --> 00:18:09,000
because I wasn't given that information

422
00:18:13,129 --> 00:18:10,620
it was very matter-of-fact this is

423
00:18:15,789 --> 00:18:13,139
what's what I see and this is what ended

424
00:18:20,590 --> 00:18:15,799
up happening I can't change the outcome

425
00:18:23,690 --> 00:18:20,600
maybe not for me to change perhaps so

426
00:18:25,370 --> 00:18:23,700
let's dig in a little bit further in

427
00:18:28,279 --> 00:18:25,380
terms of because I like people to be

428
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:28,289
interested in this what you think you're

429
00:18:35,470 --> 00:18:32,010
actually doing than during this healing

430
00:18:39,230 --> 00:18:35,480
process because healing is super

431
00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:39,240
important to so many of us for so many

432
00:18:44,870 --> 00:18:42,570
reasons we're suffering we think we need

433
00:18:48,190 --> 00:18:44,880
relief from that suffering and we're

434
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seeking healing and you're offering that

435
00:18:52,669 --> 00:18:51,149
service that seems to work for so many

436
00:18:55,460 --> 00:18:52,679
people so you have people come in and

437
00:18:58,310 --> 00:18:55,470
said I felt this way before I felt

438
00:19:00,139 --> 00:18:58,320
better after you could go do the science

439
00:19:03,019 --> 00:19:00,149
and I'd love to go do the science on

440
00:19:04,700 --> 00:19:03,029
that but we can't in this interview we

441
00:19:04,909 --> 00:19:04,710
just have to kind of take your word for

442
00:19:07,879 --> 00:19:04,919
it

443
00:19:10,850 --> 00:19:07,889
yeah one question one question that I

444
00:19:14,330 --> 00:19:10,860
think doesn't get asked enough is what

445
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:14,340
is your understanding of precisely what

446
00:19:20,659 --> 00:19:17,010
you're doing as part of that healing

447
00:19:23,570 --> 00:19:20,669
process with the auric field so what I

448
00:19:24,860 --> 00:19:23,580
believe I'm doing I never Satan it's

449
00:19:27,919 --> 00:19:24,870
perception isn't it everything's

450
00:19:29,779 --> 00:19:27,929
perception really so but I feel that I'm

451
00:19:31,970 --> 00:19:29,789
going through perhaps the cellular

452
00:19:35,210 --> 00:19:31,980
aspect of that person's energy the

453
00:19:36,740 --> 00:19:35,220
bioplasmic field or as such a crap word

454
00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:36,750
of excuse my own but it just doesn't

455
00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:40,320
encapsulate all there is because it's

456
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:42,510
spiritual healing it's physical healing

457
00:19:48,769 --> 00:19:44,610
it's emotional healing mental healing it

458
00:19:51,139 --> 00:19:48,779
can all it conglomerate's into this one

459
00:19:53,269 --> 00:19:51,149
thing but it's many things in the one I

460
00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:53,279
do like to sort of think that's a bit of

461
00:19:59,119 --> 00:19:55,679
a paradox as well does that make sense

462
00:20:01,130 --> 00:19:59,129
so I literally I'm going through an ORAC

463
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:01,140
field pass

464
00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:04,170
my stuff can come up future life but it

465
00:20:08,810 --> 00:20:06,960
can also I can give you an example

466
00:20:11,060 --> 00:20:08,820
reveal and I know this is taking my word

467
00:20:13,070 --> 00:20:11,070
for it but I have a client who she sees

468
00:20:16,130 --> 00:20:13,080
me every three months it's like her

469
00:20:18,140 --> 00:20:16,140
therapy she's very rich she doesn't she

470
00:20:21,740 --> 00:20:18,150
has no skepticism at all which is great

471
00:20:23,660 --> 00:20:21,750
and she was so usually I just talked to

472
00:20:26,810 --> 00:20:23,670
her relatives that's what she wants

473
00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:26,820
that's not really my thing but it's what

474
00:20:31,010 --> 00:20:29,130
a lot of people want I've got an opinion

475
00:20:31,910 --> 00:20:31,020
on that one but this time she went I'm

476
00:20:33,770 --> 00:20:31,920
feeling a bit tired

477
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:33,780
will you go through my aura I went

478
00:20:38,420 --> 00:20:36,450
through the bioplasmic field and all I

479
00:20:41,230 --> 00:20:38,430
said to her was I believe or I can

480
00:20:43,550 --> 00:20:41,240
fulfill actually physically feel a

481
00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:43,560
delineation within New York feel so

482
00:20:49,730 --> 00:20:47,760
darkest spots or heavier spots and I

483
00:20:52,340 --> 00:20:49,740
said I think you might have a cyst in

484
00:20:54,290 --> 00:20:52,350
your liver didn't think anything of it

485
00:20:55,940 --> 00:20:54,300
she have one of those for body scan so

486
00:20:57,500 --> 00:20:55,950
the woman came back to it all you've got

487
00:20:59,720 --> 00:20:57,510
really is just a little cyst in your

488
00:21:02,720 --> 00:20:59,730
liver so she came back and she said I

489
00:21:05,870 --> 00:21:02,730
just spent 400 quid to be told exactly

490
00:21:08,660 --> 00:21:05,880
what you've just told me but I'm not a

491
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:08,670
scientist so I'm not I'm not privy am I

492
00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:12,210
to having Lord it's about healing

493
00:21:18,590 --> 00:21:15,440
because I'm not a doctor I'm not medical

494
00:21:20,890 --> 00:21:18,600
what does that mean well let's set that

495
00:21:22,330 --> 00:21:20,900
aside for a second and let me ask you

496
00:21:24,500 --> 00:21:22,340
again

497
00:21:26,750 --> 00:21:24,510
Kathy Anna I don't know if I'm phrasing

498
00:21:30,170 --> 00:21:26,760
it the right way what is your experience

499
00:21:31,700 --> 00:21:30,180
about what you are doing and let's put

500
00:21:33,950 --> 00:21:31,710
it in the context of what other people

501
00:21:36,260 --> 00:21:33,960
say because there's other people who do

502
00:21:39,740 --> 00:21:36,270
similar kind of things sometimes they'll

503
00:21:41,870 --> 00:21:39,750
come back and they'll say I am directed

504
00:21:44,180 --> 00:21:41,880
by the hands of Jesus I'm not putting

505
00:21:46,430 --> 00:21:44,190
that yeah yeah just saying you know

506
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:46,440
people will say that or other people

507
00:21:53,330 --> 00:21:49,770
would say I'm using my spirit guides to

508
00:21:58,190 --> 00:21:53,340
direct me towards this I have an angel

509
00:22:00,620 --> 00:21:58,200
or this you do any of that well I don't

510
00:22:03,740 --> 00:22:00,630
know if they do any of it either okay oh

511
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:03,750
I think what you do is is interesting in

512
00:22:08,510 --> 00:22:06,330
particular because you know we connected

513
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:08,520
it to this crop circle thing in your

514
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:10,530
experience with that and the other thing

515
00:22:13,910 --> 00:22:12,690
that's interesting or salvaged unravel

516
00:22:14,899 --> 00:22:13,920
the other thing that's interesting about

517
00:22:18,409 --> 00:22:14,909
connecting it to the

518
00:22:21,919 --> 00:22:18,419
crop circle is that crop circles are in

519
00:22:24,469 --> 00:22:21,929
physical plane

520
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:24,479
somebody who says I'm the hands of Jesus

521
00:22:29,779 --> 00:22:26,970
are guiding me as I you know do therapy

522
00:22:31,820 --> 00:22:29,789
on somebody yes have no way of touching

523
00:22:33,710 --> 00:22:31,830
that you are saying on the other hand

524
00:22:36,049 --> 00:22:33,720
wait a minute I went into this crop

525
00:22:38,659 --> 00:22:36,059
circle field here's a photo of it and

526
00:22:40,759 --> 00:22:38,669
there was this energy field here's the

527
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:40,769
scientist who measured it and here's how

528
00:22:45,109 --> 00:22:42,570
he said his camera is kind of like you

529
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:45,119
so sad that we have kind of the

530
00:22:51,289 --> 00:22:48,690
phenomenon a whole range of phenomena

531
00:22:54,099 --> 00:22:51,299
that we can kind of put in the physical

532
00:22:58,099 --> 00:22:54,109
room so you seem to be straddling this

533
00:23:00,589 --> 00:22:58,109
almost technology if you will associated

534
00:23:02,389 --> 00:23:00,599
with that and I love your openness in

535
00:23:04,489 --> 00:23:02,399
your story to that hey she asked me I

536
00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:04,499
kind of stumbled into doing past life I

537
00:23:09,259 --> 00:23:06,809
stumbled into doing medium readings I

538
00:23:12,109 --> 00:23:09,269
start but I think you have a sense Kathy

539
00:23:13,700 --> 00:23:12,119
that there's something else that what

540
00:23:17,570 --> 00:23:13,710
are you following there what's what's

541
00:23:19,969 --> 00:23:17,580
guiding you in terms of driving this

542
00:23:21,649 --> 00:23:19,979
ability that you have D do you know or

543
00:23:23,450 --> 00:23:21,659
do maybe you don't care too much about

544
00:23:25,639 --> 00:23:23,460
that you just kind of do your thing I

545
00:23:28,249 --> 00:23:25,649
just do it I think I'm not making

546
00:23:30,649 --> 00:23:28,259
excuses I'm very receptive

547
00:23:32,719 --> 00:23:30,659
I like quantum physics I know you don't

548
00:23:34,609 --> 00:23:32,729
want to go down that route but it does

549
00:23:37,310 --> 00:23:34,619
seem to be playing out more and more

550
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:37,320
that we are all intertwined so a my

551
00:23:41,419 --> 00:23:39,210
energy my auric field they say that

552
00:23:43,580 --> 00:23:41,429
there's several layers of the aura that

553
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:43,590
there's seven chakra points there's four

554
00:23:48,109 --> 00:23:45,210
in my understanding there's way more

555
00:23:50,599 --> 00:23:48,119
than that and with our energy is

556
00:23:53,239 --> 00:23:50,609
infinite energy is infinite oh sorry

557
00:23:57,049 --> 00:23:53,249
yes infinite but we've got this mental

558
00:24:00,320 --> 00:23:57,059
constriction that stops I think a very

559
00:24:01,849 --> 00:24:00,330
organic practice if I was if I was in

560
00:24:03,499 --> 00:24:01,859
medieval times no one would think twice

561
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:03,509
about what I do they would send them to

562
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:05,330
me and go you know they've got the pox

563
00:24:13,789 --> 00:24:08,159
what can you do about it there wouldn't

564
00:24:15,889 --> 00:24:13,799
be any of that mental rigidity about

565
00:24:18,169 --> 00:24:15,899
what I do what shame is do I would say

566
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:18,179
I'm a bit more on a shamanic level if

567
00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:21,090
I'm honest energy is just energy and we

568
00:24:27,859 --> 00:24:25,769
can all interpret it okay a related

569
00:24:28,740 --> 00:24:27,869
question I guess would be on this whole

570
00:24:31,620 --> 00:24:28,750
issue

571
00:24:35,300 --> 00:24:31,630
of channeling again it's it's

572
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:35,310
controversial for a number of real

573
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:38,320
understandable reasons in that you know

574
00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:40,210
people there's a lot of different

575
00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:42,190
channeled information out there there's

576
00:24:46,830 --> 00:24:44,710
channeled information that we find is

577
00:24:49,980 --> 00:24:46,840
kind of not-so-great channeled

578
00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:49,990
information it comes it comes to be

579
00:24:54,540 --> 00:24:52,480
proven to kind of pull people down their

580
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:54,550
own path kind of a Hungry Ghost kind of

581
00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:55,090
thing

582
00:25:00,060 --> 00:24:57,370
there's also channeled information that

583
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:00,070
seems quite profound that inspires

584
00:25:06,450 --> 00:25:03,250
people I guess I'd have similar kind of

585
00:25:10,260 --> 00:25:06,460
questions about first of all what do you

586
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:10,270
even think is going on with channeling

587
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:14,080
along the lines of you know who are you

588
00:25:22,530 --> 00:25:16,930
channeling what is what is being

589
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:22,540
channelled why is that channel available

590
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:25,570
I mean again I do feel like these

591
00:25:33,690 --> 00:25:29,410
questions are not usually asked instead

592
00:25:36,420 --> 00:25:33,700
stuck on verifying and shaming oh my

593
00:25:38,670 --> 00:25:36,430
gosh you were wrong on this or that

594
00:25:42,510 --> 00:25:38,680
person's fake rather than trying to

595
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:42,520
understand the phenomenon more generally

596
00:25:49,470 --> 00:25:46,090
what are some of your again hunches in

597
00:25:53,370 --> 00:25:49,480
terms of who you're channeling what is

598
00:25:55,710 --> 00:25:53,380
being channeled okay for me again I

599
00:25:56,850 --> 00:25:55,720
think channel is pretty much like I was

600
00:25:59,940 --> 00:25:56,860
talking about with the aura it's

601
00:26:03,870 --> 00:25:59,950
information I really believe that energy

602
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:03,880
is information and you know it could

603
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:06,730
okay Jesus come in channeling Jesus I

604
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:09,490
don't work that way if I channel I think

605
00:26:15,570 --> 00:26:11,770
it's a telepathy between consciousness

606
00:26:18,990 --> 00:26:15,580
and and my mind or I don't know

607
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:19,000
telepathy of greater mind but as you're

608
00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:21,490
saying about the occasion records I'm a

609
00:26:25,020 --> 00:26:23,110
really firm believer that there's no

610
00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:25,030
original information in the universe I

611
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,310
think it's all being there and it's like

612
00:26:31,740 --> 00:26:29,200
kind of like I could pick a mix if you

613
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:31,750
will of what you need to channel for me

614
00:26:36,810 --> 00:26:34,690
I don't I don't need to channel

615
00:26:39,540 --> 00:26:36,820
I don't definitely don't Channel with

616
00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:39,550
people that pass so you know people that

617
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:41,840
have passed over I don't do

618
00:26:46,419 --> 00:26:44,090
but if I get information from what I

619
00:26:48,159 --> 00:26:46,429
call a higher source I I'm funny with

620
00:26:50,859 --> 00:26:48,169
the word spirit guide I'm funny with the

621
00:26:53,529 --> 00:26:50,869
word spirit guardian I don't like labels

622
00:26:56,489 --> 00:26:53,539
but obviously we need a label don't be

623
00:26:59,200 --> 00:26:56,499
so we can understand the archetype of it

624
00:27:01,539 --> 00:26:59,210
alright help us help us understand that

625
00:27:03,789 --> 00:27:01,549
it's something I'm very interested in so

626
00:27:06,339 --> 00:27:03,799
if just say I got a channel through at

627
00:27:08,159 --> 00:27:06,349
the moment I don't I've got one of my

628
00:27:10,509 --> 00:27:08,169
bugbears and I'm not trying to be

629
00:27:12,219 --> 00:27:10,519
controversial what I kind of am is I'm

630
00:27:15,999 --> 00:27:12,229
going to just say okay so there I've got

631
00:27:20,529 --> 00:27:16,009
a 16th century Chinese monk I don't need

632
00:27:22,690 --> 00:27:20,539
to change my voice to create that vision

633
00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:22,700
of having a Chinese person's force

634
00:27:27,399 --> 00:27:25,089
because that person is no longer in

635
00:27:29,289 --> 00:27:27,409
colonnades they're diseconomy they're

636
00:27:32,259 --> 00:27:29,299
not here so I'm going to channel that

637
00:27:34,570 --> 00:27:32,269
information through my own voice does

638
00:27:38,229 --> 00:27:34,580
that make sense it does and that's a

639
00:27:40,539 --> 00:27:38,239
really great tiny little example have

640
00:27:43,769 --> 00:27:40,549
you ever connected with what you

641
00:27:47,379 --> 00:27:43,779
identify as being a 16th century Chinese

642
00:27:50,829 --> 00:27:47,389
I would say what I probably have

643
00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:50,839
channeled is the frequency of that

644
00:27:56,379 --> 00:27:53,809
information rather than a sixteenth

645
00:27:59,320 --> 00:27:56,389
century monk why do you make that

646
00:28:02,769 --> 00:27:59,330
distinction and do you believe that

647
00:28:06,129 --> 00:28:02,779
there are spirit beings if you will you

648
00:28:08,259 --> 00:28:06,139
know I mean our our ancestors when we do

649
00:28:09,759 --> 00:28:08,269
a medium reading and we yeah it's

650
00:28:11,589 --> 00:28:09,769
specific information and they tell us

651
00:28:13,749 --> 00:28:11,599
things that are important to us about

652
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:13,759
our life and I was there for your

653
00:28:19,989 --> 00:28:17,210
daughter's you know yes birthday party

654
00:28:23,619 --> 00:28:19,999
what is how do you process that what do

655
00:28:25,690 --> 00:28:23,629
you think that means okay so yes I do

656
00:28:29,259 --> 00:28:25,700
believe in spirits I do believe in

657
00:28:32,289 --> 00:28:29,269
higher energies send your masters but my

658
00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:32,299
view is that it's an energy thing if

659
00:28:36,909 --> 00:28:33,679
I've got someone that's passed over that

660
00:28:38,169 --> 00:28:36,919
comes in I think and I'm starting to

661
00:28:39,999 --> 00:28:38,179
believe this a little bit more and more

662
00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:40,009
the more I do this that I'm possibly

663
00:28:45,489 --> 00:28:42,710
talking to an echo or a resonant memory

664
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:45,499
of that soul that comes through in the

665
00:28:50,289 --> 00:28:48,049
in the physical body so I can understand

666
00:28:52,269 --> 00:28:50,299
you know you're tall you've got our hair

667
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:52,279
your name's Derek does that make sense

668
00:28:58,550 --> 00:28:55,170
but well I'm actually linked

669
00:29:02,210 --> 00:28:58,560
- is an echo a resonant memory of their

670
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:02,220
their life their soul it's all about

671
00:29:08,990 --> 00:29:06,240
soul for me so do you think that Derek

672
00:29:12,290 --> 00:29:09,000
in that case is directing that

673
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:12,300
communication through that frequency

674
00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:14,730
because okay yeah I do

675
00:29:19,940 --> 00:29:17,910
I'm just trying to distinguish that you

676
00:29:21,860 --> 00:29:19,950
know I don't think Derek is coming in

677
00:29:23,540 --> 00:29:21,870
because the body's gone the body's been

678
00:29:25,010 --> 00:29:23,550
dealt with I know that their cellular

679
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:25,020
memory held within the physical body

680
00:29:29,690 --> 00:29:27,930
through any incarnation but that's what

681
00:29:33,130 --> 00:29:29,700
I believe a kind of memory and they

682
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:33,140
bring through memory they bring through

683
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:37,050
special memories love memories but they

684
00:29:43,580 --> 00:29:40,110
also bring through some conflicting and

685
00:29:45,260 --> 00:29:43,590
some contradictory information yes bring

686
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:45,270
through some very religious information

687
00:29:50,510 --> 00:29:47,810
that seems to contradict our

688
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:50,520
understanding of other people who say

689
00:29:55,670 --> 00:29:53,610
that's religion stuff is okay but

690
00:29:57,980 --> 00:29:55,680
there's a deeper truth to it or they

691
00:29:59,630 --> 00:29:57,990
bring through stuff that you know back

692
00:30:03,070 --> 00:29:59,640
again something we've been touching on a

693
00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:03,080
little bit some of them are nasty

694
00:30:08,540 --> 00:30:06,480
benevolent entities that are disguising

695
00:30:10,610 --> 00:30:08,550
themselves and are intentionally seem to

696
00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:10,620
be deceiving people and that seems to be

697
00:30:14,930 --> 00:30:12,720
provable in some sense you know what

698
00:30:18,020 --> 00:30:14,940
spirit comes through and tells you hey

699
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:18,030
your real path is to go and sleep with

700
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:19,890
your best friends what if you're trying

701
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:32,840
I'm not I'm not scared of anything I

702
00:30:39,650 --> 00:30:37,530
will do spirit cleansing of houses Ouija

703
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:39,660
board I'm not scared of that because I

704
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:41,850
think if you've got a pure intention

705
00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:44,480
when you're doing it it can only

706
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:46,950
resonate on the pure intention yeah of

707
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:49,410
course there are things out there fair

708
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:51,360
enough fair enough in and you know I'm

709
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:54,810
totally down with you know the secret of

710
00:30:58,700 --> 00:30:56,730
the ascent is to always look up and you

711
00:31:01,550 --> 00:30:58,710
know like that's about Claire's vibe to

712
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:01,560
is that you know focus on this I do

713
00:31:04,850 --> 00:31:03,210
always have to kind of bring it back to

714
00:31:06,740 --> 00:31:04,860
you know we have this in Britain you

715
00:31:07,169 --> 00:31:06,750
know you have a little John D thing who

716
00:31:11,099 --> 00:31:07,179
press

717
00:31:14,219 --> 00:31:11,109
was right responsible for setting up the

718
00:31:16,349 --> 00:31:14,229
the roadmap the blueprint for the

719
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:16,359
British Empire and he's doing exactly

720
00:31:20,820 --> 00:31:18,849
that right so he's gone down this really

721
00:31:23,969 --> 00:31:20,830
dark path and at the end they're doing

722
00:31:27,539 --> 00:31:23,979
all this crazy sex magic stuff yeah yeah

723
00:31:30,539 --> 00:31:27,549
that really doesn't in in the pattern of

724
00:31:32,310 --> 00:31:30,549
his life is not positive and we people

725
00:31:34,469 --> 00:31:32,320
you know alistair crowley pick on the

726
00:31:37,619 --> 00:31:34,479
brits here today you know why not all

727
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:37,629
this evil stuff that no matter what you

728
00:31:41,489 --> 00:31:39,279
think of Aleister Crowley no one would

729
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:41,499
model their life after that no one

730
00:31:47,459 --> 00:31:45,039
thinks that that leads to spiritual

731
00:31:50,009 --> 00:31:47,469
growth and spiritual advancement of your

732
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:50,019
soul so and then if we take that on a

733
00:31:53,249 --> 00:31:51,609
more you know we have the pedo Pope

734
00:31:55,529 --> 00:31:53,259
right now you know and we about that

735
00:31:56,879 --> 00:31:55,539
whole thing even if people say that and

736
00:31:58,649 --> 00:31:56,889
so I say that sometimes people get

737
00:32:01,200 --> 00:31:58,659
offended it's like gee I don't know if

738
00:32:03,180 --> 00:32:01,210
you have a handful of lifelong friends

739
00:32:09,930 --> 00:32:03,190
and they're all pedophiles I think your

740
00:32:11,489 --> 00:32:09,940
burden of proof shifts on you it's I get

741
00:32:13,940 --> 00:32:11,499
what you're saying and what Claire's

742
00:32:17,369 --> 00:32:13,950
saying that you haven't encountered it

743
00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:17,379
clearly it's a force out there that

744
00:32:23,459 --> 00:32:20,529
seems to have a pretty good app I think

745
00:32:26,219 --> 00:32:23,469
it's for me I think it touched to ego I

746
00:32:28,919 --> 00:32:26,229
mean what I know I'm quite interested in

747
00:32:31,589 --> 00:32:28,929
Crowley actually because I'm not opposed

748
00:32:33,209 --> 00:32:31,599
to looking at the dark because the dark

749
00:32:36,180 --> 00:32:33,219
and the light to me is exactly the same

750
00:32:38,430 --> 00:32:36,190
thing but when it goes into ego that's

751
00:32:40,499 --> 00:32:38,440
where I think it goes into really low

752
00:32:42,539 --> 00:32:40,509
vibrational energy and that's when I

753
00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:42,549
think all all hell can break loose when

754
00:32:48,029 --> 00:32:45,089
it's really brought into a low vibration

755
00:32:51,450 --> 00:32:48,039
do mean that literally as well as

756
00:32:54,629 --> 00:32:51,460
figuratively what do you what do you

757
00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:54,639
think about Hell what do you think hell

758
00:32:59,039 --> 00:32:56,799
is and I'll give you two choices to kind

759
00:33:01,469 --> 00:32:59,049
of pare it down a little bit I think

760
00:33:05,219 --> 00:33:01,479
some people I've heard kind of ascribed

761
00:33:07,139 --> 00:33:05,229
to the as below so above kind of thing

762
00:33:09,389 --> 00:33:07,149
the way I put it to turn out a phrase

763
00:33:11,940 --> 00:33:09,399
around is that if you want to find a

764
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:11,950
bunch of creepy people who are seeking

765
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:15,210
out kind of nasty stuff and are

766
00:33:19,529 --> 00:33:17,440
increasing their int their negative

767
00:33:20,940 --> 00:33:19,539
energy by associating with other people

768
00:33:22,919 --> 00:33:20,950
with negative energy hey you

769
00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:22,929
can do that right here any town you can

770
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:25,120
go find that and maybe that's what's

771
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:27,610
happening on the spiritual level as well

772
00:33:33,210 --> 00:33:30,399
other people contrary to that say no

773
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:33,220
there really is this force out there

774
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:36,970
that is on par with the white force the

775
00:33:41,399 --> 00:33:39,250
the light force and it's the dark force

776
00:33:42,860 --> 00:33:41,409
and it's kind of pulling things in

777
00:33:46,409 --> 00:33:42,870
another direction

778
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:46,419
you can pick another answer but you

779
00:33:50,850 --> 00:33:50,110
think yeah I'm not I don't I don't know

780
00:33:52,919 --> 00:33:50,860
about him

781
00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:52,929
personally I think hell's what we live

782
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:55,120
in the illusion I really do I think

783
00:33:59,310 --> 00:33:57,090
you've helped lays out we are we are

784
00:34:02,039 --> 00:33:59,320
living it at the moment especially the

785
00:34:03,810 --> 00:34:02,049
way the world's going so the dark an

786
00:34:06,029 --> 00:34:03,820
like to me is duality you can't have

787
00:34:07,470 --> 00:34:06,039
dark can you without right because dark

788
00:34:10,260 --> 00:34:07,480
is just where the light hasn't gone in

789
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:10,270
yet so I think the hell's down here I'm

790
00:34:17,669 --> 00:34:12,000
not on the heaven and hell' spectrum

791
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:17,679
okay they're fair enough I've kind of

792
00:34:25,139 --> 00:34:21,129
really blown the skeptical jeopardy

793
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:25,149
model because you are so awesome to talk

794
00:34:29,849 --> 00:34:27,490
to and you are so open about just kind

795
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:29,859
of sharing all this information are

796
00:34:36,450 --> 00:34:33,129
there any other topics I want to do this

797
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:36,460
demonstration and whatever time we have

798
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:39,010
and I want to make sure you know we are

799
00:34:44,220 --> 00:34:41,770
respectful of your time what other

800
00:34:47,099 --> 00:34:44,230
topics do you think we might talk about

801
00:34:50,339 --> 00:34:47,109
I do want to talk about your practice so

802
00:34:52,619 --> 00:34:50,349
let's talk about that why people do seek

803
00:34:54,510 --> 00:34:52,629
you out and I understand you have to

804
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:54,520
understand that Kathy is very

805
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:56,770
sought-after at this point she has quite

806
00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:58,240
a waiting list that doesn't mean you

807
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:00,160
still shouldn't try and contact her but

808
00:35:05,339 --> 00:35:03,490
she's not out there scraping to kind of

809
00:35:07,410 --> 00:35:05,349
scrounging around trying to get some

810
00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:07,420
work out of dust I don't think that sort

811
00:35:10,770 --> 00:35:09,310
of the main thing but she does have a

812
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:10,780
practice and you should tell people

813
00:35:16,829 --> 00:35:13,569
about that because no doubt there are

814
00:35:17,339 --> 00:35:16,839
people listening who this show is for

815
00:35:22,380 --> 00:35:17,349
them

816
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:22,390
reason um so yeah my practice obviously

817
00:35:31,170 --> 00:35:26,530
I work I work in a little it's a shop is

818
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:31,180
a crystal shop in Epsom and I do my over

819
00:35:39,630 --> 00:35:36,210
here I am booked now until January 20

820
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:39,640
u-22 I think hang on I'm booked to full

821
00:35:46,740 --> 00:35:44,130
18 months ahead so which is great for me

822
00:35:48,569 --> 00:35:46,750
but I get a lot of people that book once

823
00:35:51,180 --> 00:35:48,579
and then they come and book me again and

824
00:35:53,370 --> 00:35:51,190
then go on the waiting list so it's you

825
00:35:55,290 --> 00:35:53,380
know I don't also I'm one of no I don't

826
00:35:57,150 --> 00:35:55,300
want to encourage people I cannot stand

827
00:35:58,980 --> 00:35:57,160
people that don't take responsibility so

828
00:36:00,359 --> 00:35:58,990
they come to me and after about two

829
00:36:00,870 --> 00:36:00,369
three times they're not getting the

830
00:36:03,420 --> 00:36:00,880
point

831
00:36:05,069 --> 00:36:03,430
I won't see I won't see them again and I

832
00:36:07,020 --> 00:36:05,079
have to say you know what this is all

833
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:07,030
about self responsibility I'm not here

834
00:36:12,359 --> 00:36:10,690
to walk your path for you I'm here to

835
00:36:15,810 --> 00:36:12,369
put you on it and what you do and that

836
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:15,820
is your choice I'm quite big on that so

837
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:18,720
I'm very honest I'm very blunt

838
00:36:23,940 --> 00:36:21,010
some people say I've got no bedside

839
00:36:25,290 --> 00:36:23,950
manner but I think honesty's he's just

840
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:25,300
got a shove it out there yeah that's

841
00:36:30,050 --> 00:36:27,130
what I do that's how I've always

842
00:36:33,839 --> 00:36:30,060
operated I'm never going to change that

843
00:36:36,359 --> 00:36:33,849
so this is get people more of a sense of

844
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:36,369
what it's like for them so they sign up

845
00:36:39,930 --> 00:36:39,280
on the list there's their date comes

846
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:39,940
around

847
00:36:46,050 --> 00:36:43,510
they lie down actually in the room I'm

848
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:46,060
in I came here because I didn't want to

849
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:48,490
do this from my house we've got four

850
00:36:52,020 --> 00:36:50,560
cats and I've got two young Siamese and

851
00:36:54,809 --> 00:36:52,030
we would not heard a thing because

852
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:54,819
they're there now so I thought if I do

853
00:37:00,960 --> 00:36:58,000
it from where I do my normal energy work

854
00:37:03,180 --> 00:37:00,970
or mediumship will everyone call it just

855
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:03,190
be easier for me so they would come in

856
00:37:08,250 --> 00:37:05,710
lie down I was going through their auric

857
00:37:10,589 --> 00:37:08,260
field so if they line down the

858
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:10,599
right-hand side is there physical

859
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:13,510
information and the left-hand side is

860
00:37:19,050 --> 00:37:16,810
their emotional it can intermingle but

861
00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:19,060
that's kind of how I separate it I'll go

862
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:22,270
through the energy and say um mrs. Jo

863
00:37:28,710 --> 00:37:25,930
dogs then or mr. Joe Bloggs slight issue

864
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:28,720
with the energy around the sacral or

865
00:37:33,660 --> 00:37:31,510
their pancreas you know your dad's there

866
00:37:36,450 --> 00:37:33,670
and that's how it kind of transpires a

867
00:37:38,430 --> 00:37:36,460
lot of times we'll go past life whether

868
00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:38,440
I do well I always say to people are you

869
00:37:44,940 --> 00:37:41,710
open to past life some go yes and some

870
00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:44,950
will go no to though the rubbish okay so

871
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:46,900
in if something comes in I'll just

872
00:37:50,860 --> 00:37:48,650
ignore it

873
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:50,870
that choice let's go there for a minute

874
00:37:58,660 --> 00:37:54,170
okay what is your understanding of what

875
00:38:02,530 --> 00:37:58,670
past life is number one and there's also

876
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:02,540
a lot of controversy about how useful it

877
00:38:07,570 --> 00:38:05,510
is or it may be distracting to some

878
00:38:09,130 --> 00:38:07,580
people and that some people you know beg

879
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:09,140
away from it because it's like no I

880
00:38:13,060 --> 00:38:10,970
don't want to go there cuz it's gonna

881
00:38:14,770 --> 00:38:13,070
mess a person up and like you said I'm

882
00:38:16,210 --> 00:38:14,780
just reading out of the book anyway you

883
00:38:18,610 --> 00:38:16,220
shouldn't get too hung up on it you're

884
00:38:20,650 --> 00:38:18,620
just into here now anyway so yeah kind

885
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:20,660
of busy relevant but at the same time at

886
00:38:24,270 --> 00:38:22,490
other times it seems to be incredibly

887
00:38:26,590 --> 00:38:24,280
relevant for people people have major

888
00:38:28,660 --> 00:38:26,600
trauma blocked off or they have either

889
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:28,670
health issues that can be resolved by

890
00:38:32,830 --> 00:38:31,370
past life work I mean I don't know this

891
00:38:34,810 --> 00:38:32,840
I'm just this is what I've heard what do

892
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:34,820
you think yes

893
00:38:40,090 --> 00:38:38,240
and give me example so I had a woman

894
00:38:43,570 --> 00:38:40,100
this was through the hypnosis though so

895
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:43,580
she is a very random story but her

896
00:38:48,070 --> 00:38:46,250
husband sent her to me because he was so

897
00:38:48,910 --> 00:38:48,080
fed up he she couldn't look in the

898
00:38:50,770 --> 00:38:48,920
bathroom mirror

899
00:38:53,290 --> 00:38:50,780
I'm he sure the phobia so I do do with

900
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:53,300
the phobia of side of it and he was so

901
00:38:56,170 --> 00:38:54,890
fed up having to put the towel over the

902
00:38:59,440 --> 00:38:56,180
bathroom mirror every day you just

903
00:39:03,180 --> 00:38:59,450
thought would give it a go so in in her

904
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:03,190
regression she was a Victorian girl

905
00:39:09,940 --> 00:39:06,890
little child she she's got an obsession

906
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:09,950
in this lifetime with cleanliness of a

907
00:39:15,220 --> 00:39:12,170
fee is another weird thing that she had

908
00:39:16,030 --> 00:39:15,230
and in that other lifetime when we were

909
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:16,040
going through it

910
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:18,560
she wanted to go into this big house to

911
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:22,610
wash her feet and she was effectively

912
00:39:27,970 --> 00:39:26,090
molested in that house by this great big

913
00:39:29,470 --> 00:39:27,980
man and all she could see was the

914
00:39:32,530 --> 00:39:29,480
reflection what was going on in the

915
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:32,540
mirror in the bathroom now did her

916
00:39:35,830 --> 00:39:34,910
subconscious make up a scenario to help

917
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:35,840
her let it go

918
00:39:42,010 --> 00:39:39,050
was it true memory I can't answer that

919
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:42,020
for you because I don't know I could be

920
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:45,170
honest I don't know either way it's

921
00:39:50,650 --> 00:39:47,690
quite credible because from that from

922
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:50,660
that session afterwards the bathroom

923
00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:53,090
mirror thing are gone yeah that's the

924
00:39:57,780 --> 00:39:55,310
point that always gets me about about

925
00:40:00,430 --> 00:39:57,790
those stories and about people who are

926
00:40:01,799 --> 00:40:00,440
skeptical and I always say you know the

927
00:40:04,620 --> 00:40:01,809
kind of skeptical about

928
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:04,630
which is to just say let me put it all

929
00:40:09,179 --> 00:40:06,880
out of my mind just by putting some

930
00:40:11,609 --> 00:40:09,189
label on it and saying oh I'm a skeptic

931
00:40:13,140 --> 00:40:11,619
that can't possibly happen and I'll

932
00:40:15,209 --> 00:40:13,150
share with people that they've heard

933
00:40:16,769 --> 00:40:15,219
this many times in the show but that's

934
00:40:18,839 --> 00:40:16,779
why I was so interested in kind of

935
00:40:21,299 --> 00:40:18,849
pursuing people who have looked at it

936
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:21,309
scientifically like and I mentioned dr.

937
00:40:24,689 --> 00:40:22,689
Julie by Scholl at the wind bridge

938
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:24,699
Institute because she did some kind of

939
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:26,170
incredible work she keeps hearing these

940
00:40:32,219 --> 00:40:28,930
stories over and over again and then she

941
00:40:33,979 --> 00:40:32,229
says okay well let's do some experiment

942
00:40:37,349 --> 00:40:33,989
here on the best we can with grief

943
00:40:38,999 --> 00:40:37,359
because grief is real right yes our

944
00:40:41,429 --> 00:40:39,009
health insurance pays for grief

945
00:40:42,509 --> 00:40:41,439
counseling our health insurance pays if

946
00:40:44,699 --> 00:40:42,519
you go to the doctor and the doctor

947
00:40:47,069 --> 00:40:44,709
gives you medicine for grief they'll pay

948
00:40:50,429 --> 00:40:47,079
for that so it's completely integrated

949
00:40:52,709 --> 00:40:50,439
into our medical system so what if we

950
00:40:54,959 --> 00:40:52,719
introduce now as you just described you

951
00:40:56,910 --> 00:40:54,969
to pass life regression medium greeting

952
00:40:58,859 --> 00:40:56,920
let's introduce that in the equation and

953
00:41:00,959 --> 00:40:58,869
then we can test that right wait does

954
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:00,969
what's most effective this kind of stuff

955
00:41:05,069 --> 00:41:02,609
with you all the time this is

956
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:05,079
pharmacology where doctors you michelle

957
00:41:10,229 --> 00:41:07,569
has her PhD in pharmacology turns out

958
00:41:13,140 --> 00:41:10,239
medium reading more effective than the

959
00:41:15,419 --> 00:41:13,150
talk therapy more effective than the

960
00:41:17,999 --> 00:41:15,429
drugs you might get more effective than

961
00:41:21,179 --> 00:41:18,009
both combined I would suggest if we did

962
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:21,189
the same thing I would it guess I would

963
00:41:25,439 --> 00:41:23,890
bet money that if we did the same thing

964
00:41:29,549 --> 00:41:25,449
with the people who have you done this

965
00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:29,559
wacky past life regression stuff we'd

966
00:41:34,380 --> 00:41:32,319
find the same thing so how do we process

967
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:34,390
that you know you're open you're you're

968
00:41:43,969 --> 00:41:36,160
so much more open saying I don't know if

969
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:47,910
I think but I think I think it does and

970
00:41:51,689 --> 00:41:49,599
I think that's where we're at and that's

971
00:41:53,099 --> 00:41:51,699
another question that I have them we're

972
00:41:54,809 --> 00:41:53,109
gonna save that to that to the end

973
00:41:56,429 --> 00:41:54,819
because it's the final question after we

974
00:41:59,609 --> 00:41:56,439
did a little demonstration here which is

975
00:42:02,929 --> 00:41:59,619
how can you help science

976
00:42:07,019 --> 00:42:02,939
get on the right track in terms of

977
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:07,029
pointing at areas of research where your

978
00:42:11,759 --> 00:42:10,089
hunch tells you hey that's something we

979
00:42:13,410 --> 00:42:11,769
should pursue that's something where

980
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:13,420
there may be an app that we could

981
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:14,650
develop down the road or something like

982
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:15,250
that but

983
00:42:21,150 --> 00:42:17,170
oh maybe yep I'm gonna put that on hold

984
00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:21,160
that's that's our question is Kathy

985
00:42:26,970 --> 00:42:23,200
consult doing some free consulting for

986
00:42:29,340 --> 00:42:26,980
your key science what do you think we

987
00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:29,350
should do here and if again folks it's

988
00:42:34,860 --> 00:42:32,230
so nice it's so awesome of Kathy to

989
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:34,870
agree to do this little demonstration

990
00:42:40,290 --> 00:42:38,800
here it's no no pressure we don't know

991
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,300
what's gonna happen and if nothing

992
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:42,160
happens that's totally fine she's never

993
00:42:48,660 --> 00:42:45,040
done this on on skype zoom we're using

994
00:42:51,420 --> 00:42:48,670
so she usually does it in person but to

995
00:42:53,580 --> 00:42:51,430
give people a sense of what you do is

996
00:42:55,950 --> 00:42:53,590
there anything we could try here that

997
00:42:58,020 --> 00:42:55,960
might okay so if I tuned in to your

998
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:58,030
because I can't I can't see you you're

999
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:00,400
on a smaller screen could you go back to

1000
00:43:05,610 --> 00:43:02,110
bigger so I can see you better

1001
00:43:09,090 --> 00:43:05,620
okay here I am on the big screen that's

1002
00:43:11,070 --> 00:43:09,100
better okay so if I just chew I what I'm

1003
00:43:13,380 --> 00:43:11,080
going to do is I'm think I'm probably

1004
00:43:15,870 --> 00:43:13,390
I'm big in remote viewing or not big in

1005
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:15,880
I love remote viewing I think it's all

1006
00:43:22,170 --> 00:43:18,880
the same stuff so really challenging

1007
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:22,180
myself I should be able to do this if I

1008
00:43:27,090 --> 00:43:24,970
can do this with you lying down in my

1009
00:43:29,460 --> 00:43:27,100
presence I should be able to do it this

1010
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:29,470
way if energy is that way I should be

1011
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:31,210
able to do it so that's what I'm saying

1012
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:34,210
about myself so if I can't then my mind

1013
00:43:40,860 --> 00:43:37,530
is too even I'm constricted even I

1014
00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:40,870
suppose in a mindset of what you can and

1015
00:43:46,860 --> 00:43:42,400
what you can't do I'm being honest it

1016
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:46,870
makes sense I should be able to do it so

1017
00:43:52,380 --> 00:43:48,730
I shall give it me do want me to start

1018
00:43:58,100 --> 00:43:52,390
now sure okay so what I would do is go

1019
00:44:00,600 --> 00:43:58,110
into your auric field bioplasmic field

1020
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:00,610
so I shut my eyes just because I'm doing

1021
00:44:06,990 --> 00:44:05,290
it I suppose remotely are you open to

1022
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:07,000
people that passed overcoming this one

1023
00:44:19,710 --> 00:44:17,710
you bet okay go with me here okay it's

1024
00:44:22,610 --> 00:44:19,720
interesting because I'm also I think

1025
00:44:26,580 --> 00:44:22,620
might be linking into someone else

1026
00:44:27,810 --> 00:44:26,590
within the home so you might have to

1027
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:27,820
bear with me on that because I feel like

1028
00:44:34,250 --> 00:44:29,170
I've got two going on

1029
00:44:38,519 --> 00:44:34,260
would that make sense very odd this so

1030
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:38,529
is interesting I'm sometimes I have to

1031
00:44:47,450 --> 00:44:41,680
get taken to a location which I do when

1032
00:44:55,019 --> 00:44:51,269
welcome can you have that I've got

1033
00:44:58,589 --> 00:44:55,029
someone talking to me about Louie Lewis

1034
00:45:01,349 --> 00:44:58,599
by will go Louie you're shouting at me

1035
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:01,359
so Louie Louie would be a grandfather

1036
00:45:10,529 --> 00:45:05,920
and and Lou it to me and Louis would be

1037
00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:10,539
a brother to me okay I think I've got to

1038
00:45:18,690 --> 00:45:13,720
hear a Louis Anna Lewis would that make

1039
00:45:21,630 --> 00:45:18,700
sense well only one is passed over okay

1040
00:45:26,370 --> 00:45:21,640
I need to go into this it's um so your

1041
00:45:28,380 --> 00:45:26,380
grandfather Louie has passed over he's

1042
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:28,390
shouting he's quite um he's a strong man

1043
00:45:32,309 --> 00:45:31,569
I feel like I wanna do as I'm told not

1044
00:45:34,499 --> 00:45:32,319
in a bad way

1045
00:45:36,029 --> 00:45:34,509
I didn't write you wanna get into the

1046
00:45:38,249 --> 00:45:36,039
mediumship but there we go this is how

1047
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:38,259
this is obviously working out I feel

1048
00:45:45,420 --> 00:45:42,240
like if I tune into your or a bear I

1049
00:45:49,319 --> 00:45:45,430
would work energetically in your lower

1050
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:49,329
lower sacral root chakra point anything

1051
00:45:56,819 --> 00:45:53,410
to do with the male the prostate area

1052
00:46:06,120 --> 00:45:56,829
all of that does it make sense all route

1053
00:46:10,410 --> 00:46:06,130
back okay okay and also top of the neck

1054
00:46:12,269 --> 00:46:10,420
I think where the like I don't know this

1055
00:46:14,099 --> 00:46:12,279
is someone else also in the house with a

1056
00:46:20,789 --> 00:46:14,109
neck I've also got someone talking about

1057
00:46:22,829 --> 00:46:20,799
an aortic valve compromise if that makes

1058
00:46:24,269 --> 00:46:22,839
any sense we're not talking to my

1059
00:46:25,559 --> 00:46:24,279
clients because I don't call myself a

1060
00:46:28,140 --> 00:46:25,569
medium I ask some questions I know

1061
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:28,150
you're stunning up because this is

1062
00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:35,410
scientific alright face very um your I'm

1063
00:46:39,210 --> 00:46:37,089
going to assume it's your grandfather I

1064
00:46:42,059 --> 00:46:39,220
don't know it is I'm just saying I'm

1065
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:42,069
giving you what I'm getting he's taking

1066
00:46:46,380 --> 00:46:42,370
me

1067
00:46:48,180 --> 00:46:46,390
down it's a weird thing it's all why

1068
00:46:50,490 --> 00:46:48,190
sometimes I get imagery does that make

1069
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:50,500
sense oh I have to piece together these

1070
00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:56,010
little packets of data and I can see is

1071
00:47:06,030 --> 00:47:00,160
like a white like white squares it's

1072
00:47:08,130 --> 00:47:06,040
very old squares and quite a drop I feel

1073
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:08,140
like if I look down I would be dropping

1074
00:47:17,810 --> 00:47:10,570
down I don't know you're you're were to

1075
00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:21,630
have these talking about an aortic valve

1076
00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:25,510
like rupture or aneurysm I feel like I

1077
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:29,920
have to give you that and your I would

1078
00:47:33,660 --> 00:47:32,290
if you were lying with me I wouldn't I

1079
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:33,670
don't mean nothing that way I mean if

1080
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:36,400
you were me if I was doing a reading for

1081
00:47:42,570 --> 00:47:40,290
you I would go straight into lower back

1082
00:47:53,660 --> 00:47:42,580
sacral you're aware of your chakra

1083
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:55,350
Wow okay

1084
00:48:03,450 --> 00:48:00,160
they're also I'm sure me um someone in

1085
00:48:06,990 --> 00:48:03,460
what I would understand to be deep

1086
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:07,000
financed whatever that means someone

1087
00:48:16,410 --> 00:48:10,570
very very um within finance or real

1088
00:48:20,130 --> 00:48:16,420
estate or what we call estate agency

1089
00:48:24,980 --> 00:48:20,140
here I've got a model because I've got

1090
00:48:31,650 --> 00:48:24,990
something from have we got Mary Mary yes

1091
00:48:34,650 --> 00:48:31,660
linked to someone else not you yes I've

1092
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:34,660
got lots of information hitting me at

1093
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:36,010
once right

1094
00:48:40,110 --> 00:48:38,110
I mean I can kind of tell you who that

1095
00:48:41,580 --> 00:48:40,120
who that is or I could maybe not tell

1096
00:48:46,109 --> 00:48:41,590
you who it is until late that's fine

1097
00:48:52,089 --> 00:48:50,289
Wow okay I'm more I'm kind of I get see

1098
00:48:55,089 --> 00:48:52,099
yeah it's funny when I'm doing this I

1099
00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:55,099
even get fixated in my mind I'm stuck on

1100
00:49:00,970 --> 00:48:58,970
those squares the white square things

1101
00:49:03,339 --> 00:49:00,980
well they're not like that they're like

1102
00:49:07,140 --> 00:49:03,349
hey I'm like a wall

1103
00:49:10,900 --> 00:49:07,150
sorry old I can't kind of move beyond I

1104
00:49:14,740 --> 00:49:10,910
feel like I'm looking out like quite a

1105
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:14,750
lot of fun so it looks like it sounds I

1106
00:49:21,279 --> 00:49:17,890
think it looks like a cruise ship a

1107
00:49:24,130 --> 00:49:21,289
house that looks like a cruise ship I

1108
00:49:27,309 --> 00:49:24,140
can't make any sense of this I'm sorry

1109
00:49:29,829 --> 00:49:27,319
well I'll kind of give you some stuff

1110
00:49:32,140 --> 00:49:29,839
there so these white squares are the are

1111
00:49:34,750 --> 00:49:32,150
the house that I live in it's a very

1112
00:49:39,309 --> 00:49:34,760
modern house it's kind of very close to

1113
00:49:41,980 --> 00:49:39,319
the ocean it would definitely if you're

1114
00:49:44,890 --> 00:49:41,990
from various points of view

1115
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:44,900
yeah right on exactly and it's unusual

1116
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:46,690
with the squares it sees huge

1117
00:49:58,029 --> 00:49:55,210
architectural squares okay I'm just

1118
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:58,039
saying that I feel like I'm standing on

1119
00:50:07,180 --> 00:50:00,880
a kind of patio if that makes sense

1120
00:50:10,089 --> 00:50:07,190
looking out and it would you say your

1121
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:10,099
house is whatever large yes I live in

1122
00:50:14,829 --> 00:50:11,930
England we live in rabbit hutches that

1123
00:50:18,910 --> 00:50:14,839
we have to accept this for me that would

1124
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:18,920
be a nice a palatial domain would be

1125
00:50:27,609 --> 00:50:22,490
okay yes and I think grandfather has a

1126
00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:27,619
lot of pride in in that he would have

1127
00:50:33,069 --> 00:50:29,359
been maybe someone that would have held

1128
00:50:35,980 --> 00:50:33,079
a great pride with accomplishment or

1129
00:50:38,349 --> 00:50:35,990
achievement materially I don't mean that

1130
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:38,359
in a bad way I just mean absolutely

1131
00:50:44,620 --> 00:50:41,359
considering he considering he came to

1132
00:50:48,130 --> 00:50:44,630
the United States with $5 sewn into the

1133
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:48,140
inside of his jacket 14 years old from

1134
00:50:53,710 --> 00:50:51,410
Greece and now you know okay

1135
00:50:56,650 --> 00:50:53,720
so I'll give you that one then because

1136
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:56,660
there is a sense of really really deep

1137
00:51:02,730 --> 00:50:57,970
pride and a come

1138
00:51:07,140 --> 00:51:02,740
women of perhaps where you or you and

1139
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:07,150
whoever have accomplished in your life

1140
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:08,800
does that make sense I'm not trying to

1141
00:51:14,580 --> 00:51:12,000
be all sort of hokey and sure sure sure

1142
00:51:18,030 --> 00:51:14,590
it's really good looking at and there's

1143
00:51:20,339 --> 00:51:18,040
a moustache man as well okay that's

1144
00:51:22,620 --> 00:51:20,349
passed over or or is in the family but

1145
00:51:24,030 --> 00:51:22,630
really moustache and I've got my only

1146
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:24,040
reason I go like I've got a thing about

1147
00:51:30,060 --> 00:51:27,490
moustache means for this week did he

1148
00:51:33,540 --> 00:51:30,070
have a moustache really it's quite a

1149
00:51:36,260 --> 00:51:33,550
thick one I've got a definitely a male

1150
00:51:38,580 --> 00:51:36,270
with a thick thick thick moustache a

1151
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:38,590
different type my dad didn't wear a

1152
00:51:43,140 --> 00:51:40,330
moustache all the time but he did

1153
00:51:51,630 --> 00:51:43,150
sometimes and when he did was it quite

1154
00:51:56,670 --> 00:51:51,640
was a tree sight not really no okay no

1155
00:52:00,720 --> 00:51:56,680
okay you are the sensitive child I'm

1156
00:52:02,430 --> 00:52:00,730
being told okay sibling why so you've

1157
00:52:05,460 --> 00:52:02,440
got siblings but I'm being told you are

1158
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:05,470
very sensitive where you would do this

1159
00:52:09,329 --> 00:52:06,970
if you weren't so you do not mean you

1160
00:52:11,220 --> 00:52:09,339
can kind of but they're saying actually

1161
00:52:16,170 --> 00:52:11,230
you you're very deep you have a lot of

1162
00:52:20,849 --> 00:52:16,180
fun actually you've been given quite a

1163
00:52:22,140 --> 00:52:20,859
bit of crap within your lifetime does

1164
00:52:24,359 --> 00:52:22,150
that make sense that I think you've

1165
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:24,369
really acted that off a bit and not

1166
00:52:29,250 --> 00:52:27,280
internalize but I do feel they say that

1167
00:52:30,180 --> 00:52:29,260
you do kind of internalize it whether

1168
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:30,190
you want or not

1169
00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:33,010
male condition maybe but you're very

1170
00:52:38,099 --> 00:52:35,440
honest and you've got integrity and as a

1171
00:52:41,339 --> 00:52:38,109
child I've been told infinitely

1172
00:52:43,170 --> 00:52:41,349
questioning everything or the Majan you

1173
00:52:46,890 --> 00:52:43,180
might be in a bit of pain in the in the

1174
00:52:47,550 --> 00:52:46,900
rump as a child in questioning would

1175
00:52:58,020 --> 00:52:47,560
that make sense

1176
00:52:59,900 --> 00:52:58,030
sure okay I would suggest flushing of

1177
00:53:02,460 --> 00:52:59,910
your system

1178
00:53:04,530 --> 00:53:02,470
orally speaking the auric fields can

1179
00:53:11,820 --> 00:53:04,540
hold a listening I would also go back

1180
00:53:15,150 --> 00:53:11,830
maybe 17 years ago within your why

1181
00:53:16,740 --> 00:53:15,160
called Heinlein so if you were with me

1182
00:53:19,230 --> 00:53:16,750
it's a bit difficult because I kind of

1183
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:19,240
want to get into your aura now properly

1184
00:53:25,770 --> 00:53:22,690
without kind of doing in this sort of by

1185
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:25,780
locating way but I would probably need

1186
00:53:30,780 --> 00:53:27,850
to pull some stuff about seventeen years

1187
00:53:32,670 --> 00:53:30,790
ago it's not exact but we this would go

1188
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:32,680
back into the aura fields where you get

1189
00:53:37,830 --> 00:53:36,010
stuff that's stuck so whether it's

1190
00:53:40,590 --> 00:53:37,840
seventeen years ago or seventeen days

1191
00:53:43,070 --> 00:53:40,600
ago that still sits with a soul does

1192
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:43,080
that make sense and is this all from

1193
00:53:52,820 --> 00:53:48,250
deep questioning I've got a very strong

1194
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:52,830
female coming in this is to do with I

1195
00:53:57,860 --> 00:53:55,330
want to say Mary but I don't think it is

1196
00:54:02,300 --> 00:53:57,870
I think I would want to say Mary or Mary

1197
00:54:06,140 --> 00:54:02,310
not as he married me but Mary or Murray

1198
00:54:11,610 --> 00:54:06,150
with another female the only Murray I

1199
00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:11,620
connect with is still alive okay but

1200
00:54:22,740 --> 00:54:15,520
around the family circle yes it would be

1201
00:54:28,490 --> 00:54:22,750
my brother's wife okay I'm Annie's

1202
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:28,500
little stuff with her what kind of stuff

1203
00:54:41,490 --> 00:54:39,130
skeletal or spying all hips hips and

1204
00:54:44,730 --> 00:54:41,500
joints she just had like an injection a

1205
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:44,740
Cell Stem kind of thing for her is

1206
00:54:50,190 --> 00:54:47,680
specifically for hips or number four

1207
00:54:56,130 --> 00:54:50,200
five back region it was for the knees

1208
00:54:58,500 --> 00:54:56,140
actually okay but trees are just being

1209
00:55:05,880 --> 00:54:58,510
given to shut that out there in there as

1210
00:55:09,390 --> 00:55:05,890
well good okay well I would obviously I

1211
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:09,400
need to do this if you were lying on a

1212
00:55:14,700 --> 00:55:12,490
couch I will be probably doing what we

1213
00:55:20,610 --> 00:55:14,710
were discussing what is healing but I do

1214
00:55:22,380 --> 00:55:20,620
we do a sort of them I would sort of try

1215
00:55:25,050 --> 00:55:22,390
and clear the mental layer I know that

1216
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:25,060
you want answers and that's fine

1217
00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:27,530
but I do feel they're saying don't try

1218
00:55:38,740 --> 00:55:37,310
and over don't overanalyze okay so I've

1219
00:55:44,980 --> 00:55:38,750
got two people pulling me on different

1220
00:55:47,950 --> 00:55:44,990
sort of ways so your um your ancestry is

1221
00:55:59,590 --> 00:55:47,960
not from here obviously and from a very

1222
00:56:01,870 --> 00:55:59,600
proud nation right okay okay they're

1223
00:56:09,220 --> 00:56:01,880
also talking about when I say they

1224
00:56:14,460 --> 00:56:09,230
whoever I'm speaking to they're talking

1225
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:14,470
about your partner right my partner you

1226
00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:20,930
know whatever it is Wow okay would you

1227
00:56:28,300 --> 00:56:26,240
say very formidable I don't be careful

1228
00:56:33,850 --> 00:56:28,310
when we go ahead no I'll be very very

1229
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:33,860
very strong mentally really strong okay

1230
00:56:41,410 --> 00:56:37,850
she's a forensic psychologist she's okay

1231
00:56:43,660 --> 00:56:41,420
so she has to think in a very very

1232
00:56:45,550 --> 00:56:43,670
conceptualized way where's your a bit

1233
00:56:47,470 --> 00:56:45,560
more expensive is that fair you've got

1234
00:56:49,410 --> 00:56:47,480
what I called the female brain and she

1235
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:49,420
might have more like all the male brain

1236
00:56:56,850 --> 00:56:53,810
it's not about gender at all energy yeah

1237
00:57:00,910 --> 00:56:56,860
no I get what you mean I don't I don't I

1238
00:57:04,770 --> 00:57:00,920
don't really resonate with that because

1239
00:57:08,290 --> 00:57:04,780
I feel like you know I've gone down this

1240
00:57:12,850 --> 00:57:08,300
science and logic path as a way to

1241
00:57:14,260 --> 00:57:12,860
access the deeper okay you know and

1242
00:57:17,140 --> 00:57:14,270
that's like one of the things I say I'm

1243
00:57:19,330 --> 00:57:17,150
on the show often especially for you

1244
00:57:20,740 --> 00:57:19,340
know some people to understand

1245
00:57:22,210 --> 00:57:20,750
especially for women to understand that

1246
00:57:25,210 --> 00:57:22,220
sometimes that's how men have to work

1247
00:57:27,940 --> 00:57:25,220
you know you have to know it I have to

1248
00:57:30,670 --> 00:57:27,950
know it logically and overanalyze before

1249
00:57:32,740 --> 00:57:30,680
I can feel it you know make sense but

1250
00:57:35,410 --> 00:57:32,750
you are very deep you do have that deep

1251
00:57:38,050 --> 00:57:35,420
men time to mask it perhaps a little bit

1252
00:57:40,210 --> 00:57:38,060
more about well I think

1253
00:57:41,740 --> 00:57:40,220
it to me it's it's like a given I mean

1254
00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:41,750
who are we why are we here if you're not

1255
00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:43,520
asked if you're not asking those

1256
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:48,110
questions what are you doing you know so

1257
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:49,850
many people don't do they they don't ask

1258
00:57:54,340 --> 00:57:52,370
those questions they just take that the

1259
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:54,350
illusion is enough for them and they go

1260
00:57:58,330 --> 00:57:57,170
about their lives and things I think I

1261
00:57:59,710 --> 00:57:58,340
might have just lost my connection I

1262
00:58:02,410 --> 00:57:59,720
think going into the mental layer I'm

1263
00:58:04,540 --> 00:58:02,420
sorry about that but that's okay you

1264
00:58:11,580 --> 00:58:04,550
know what let's let's you didn't I

1265
00:58:17,130 --> 00:58:14,560
well it's it's always it's always

1266
00:58:19,570 --> 00:58:17,140
interesting it's always great I

1267
00:58:22,090 --> 00:58:19,580
appreciate it you know we ought to do

1268
00:58:23,650 --> 00:58:22,100
because we've spent some great time

1269
00:58:25,660 --> 00:58:23,660
together and your answers have been

1270
00:58:27,550 --> 00:58:25,670
fantastic and I hope that they're useful

1271
00:58:30,970 --> 00:58:27,560
to some people I do want to return to

1272
00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:30,980
that question that I had again what is

1273
00:58:36,910 --> 00:58:33,910
your hunch Cathy of what if somebody

1274
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:36,920
investigated it a little bit with kind

1275
00:58:42,820 --> 00:58:39,850
of the best scientific means we have now

1276
00:58:45,130 --> 00:58:42,830
could we make some progress that could

1277
00:58:47,890 --> 00:58:45,140
help people where could we get that app

1278
00:58:50,650 --> 00:58:47,900
where could we get that okay I think

1279
00:58:52,900 --> 00:58:50,660
problem with science or scientists is

1280
00:58:54,580 --> 00:58:52,910
they've got a very it's very concrete

1281
00:58:58,750 --> 00:58:54,590
viewpoint isn't it's really hard to

1282
00:59:01,090 --> 00:58:58,760
breach those walls as it were so what I

1283
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:01,100
would say it until science becomes more

1284
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:05,090
open-minded totally totally get what

1285
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:06,050
you're saying I'll give you a more

1286
00:59:12,100 --> 00:59:09,050
specific example we have auric cameras

1287
00:59:14,530 --> 00:59:12,110
now or yes I've got one myself okay so

1288
00:59:16,270 --> 00:59:14,540
there is some technology yes my

1289
00:59:18,310 --> 00:59:16,280
understanding is that that technology is

1290
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:18,320
actually improved a little bit in the

1291
00:59:23,890 --> 00:59:21,170
last 10 20 years where do you see

1292
00:59:25,690 --> 00:59:23,900
similar kind of gains that could be made

1293
00:59:27,460 --> 00:59:25,700
you know we have spirit communication

1294
00:59:29,620 --> 00:59:27,470
devices that people are playing around

1295
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:29,630
with you know where do you see some

1296
00:59:36,580 --> 00:59:32,170
progress potentially being made in that

1297
00:59:38,860 --> 00:59:36,590
merger of technology and kind of

1298
00:59:41,980 --> 00:59:38,870
extended consciousness and is that a

1299
00:59:44,130 --> 00:59:41,990
direction that is is positive do you

1300
00:59:46,180 --> 00:59:44,140
think that's good

1301
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:46,190
personally no you probably know a bit

1302
00:59:51,820 --> 00:59:49,010
turkey folks so the aura camera for me

1303
00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:51,830
is a teaching tool it's great to eat

1304
00:59:57,970 --> 00:59:55,040
Laura live chakra points so if you're

1305
01:00:00,310 --> 00:59:57,980
pretending in pictures so you can

1306
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:00,320
demonstrate that if you're healing

1307
01:00:05,470 --> 01:00:02,930
someone it can affect the energy of that

1308
01:00:09,220 --> 01:00:05,480
person and they can see it do you find

1309
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:09,230
from your experience that it is for lack

1310
01:00:14,410 --> 01:00:11,680
of a better word accurate is the camera

1311
01:00:19,150 --> 01:00:14,420
accurately portraying what you're seeing

1312
01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:19,160
with your personal energy work it's not

1313
01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:22,910
the tool that I use I use it to teach

1314
01:00:29,230 --> 01:00:26,720
but I've I'm hands-on I prefer the

1315
01:00:30,850 --> 01:00:29,240
organic way of doing it I think it can

1316
01:00:33,490 --> 01:00:30,860
show a certain I think it shows a lot of

1317
01:00:36,820 --> 01:00:33,500
heat the one that I've got apparently is

1318
01:00:39,010 --> 01:00:36,830
on bioplasmic so which is great because

1319
01:00:41,500 --> 01:00:39,020
it can show different colors there are

1320
01:00:43,150 --> 01:00:41,510
certain aspects where if you put just a

1321
01:00:45,550 --> 01:00:43,160
love into the heart with someone's heart

1322
01:00:47,110 --> 01:00:45,560
structures shut down a bit it does at

1323
01:00:51,190 --> 01:00:47,120
the heart chakra does open up so there

1324
01:00:54,490 --> 01:00:51,200
are aspects of that but I don't know I'm

1325
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:54,500
not sure that technology I'm not sure I

1326
01:00:57,730 --> 01:00:55,850
don't know if I meet like you're saying

1327
01:00:59,320 --> 01:00:57,740
the mediumship app that would be I mean

1328
01:01:02,710 --> 01:00:59,330
we've got leadership phone lines for

1329
01:01:05,770 --> 01:01:02,720
that to be there yes yes that's right

1330
01:01:11,410 --> 01:01:05,780
eight one eight hundred meeting which

1331
01:01:14,140 --> 01:01:11,420
I'm not a fan of well Kathy it's it's

1332
01:01:16,150 --> 01:01:14,150
been great so and we've talked about so

1333
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many topics how people can follow along

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and find something interesting there and

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I definitely hope that they'll check you

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out if they're in the air so well what

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area I'm have to confess I don't know

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what area of the UK of England are you

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are you in again so I mean if some which

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is in sorry famous for the UM the Derby

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horse race awesome the outskirts of

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London so any plans for any other ways

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01:01:49,570 --> 01:01:45,650
to get your message out there do you

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01:01:53,290 --> 01:01:49,580
have any book plans I am writing a book

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I've been writing for about 40 years but

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it keeps evolving because because the

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works evolving I just think well that's

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outdated now so it's a minefield because

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we are evolving I think so quickly

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um I got my website I love to write

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01:02:11,069 --> 01:02:08,509
blogs so I've got blogs that people can

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read if they're so inclined

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01:02:16,420 --> 01:02:13,700
the website address will include it in

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the show notes but what is the UW Kathy

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01:02:22,870 --> 01:02:20,089
Mingo comm so and I've got a thing

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called consciousness TV which I'm just

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trying to it shows people a how to

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cieaura which is really easy to teach

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someone to see it is if you can take the

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mind out of the equation which is I

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think the biggest problem for a lot of

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communication is the pesky mind if you

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can take that out I'm seeing more I can

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teach you to do that on the TV show and

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I'm also doing a ghost hunt thing I'm my

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personal I suppose my cheeky little

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01:02:57,039 --> 01:02:55,670
habit is paranormal investigations so

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that's what I'm doing I've got my first

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one on November 9th but and we've got

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the technology we've got the Ovilus ears

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we've got a doll that has EMF static and

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her eyes go blue when a spirit comes on

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it's fun that's my down time I go to

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01:03:18,999 --> 01:03:15,680
ghost listen do that that is so cool

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01:03:21,700 --> 01:03:19,009
that is so awesome and so again folks

1376
01:03:24,730 --> 01:03:21,710
it's been great spending this time with

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Kathy Mingo we tells you how to check

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01:03:28,660 --> 01:03:26,390
out her website and please do that and

1379
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:28,670
Kathy just thanks so much for joining me

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and doing this demonstration as well it

1381
01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:33,589
was all right it wasn't how I normally

1382
01:03:41,309 --> 01:03:37,369
do it so I apologize no no no apologies

1383
01:03:46,599 --> 01:03:41,319
is great and again thanks so much

1384
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:46,609
ok thanks Alex thank you everyone thanks

1385
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:48,650
again to Kathy Mingo for joining me

1386
01:03:55,690 --> 01:03:52,569
today on skeptic oh wow what a fantastic

1387
01:03:58,410 --> 01:03:55,700
interview you know we've interviewed on

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the show of course of many many

1389
01:04:03,849 --> 01:03:59,690
fantastic

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scholars academics researchers but you

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know for the pound-for-pound quality

1392
01:04:12,460 --> 01:04:10,279
information about at least giving us a

1393
01:04:14,090 --> 01:04:12,470
direction to look at some of these

1394
01:04:17,780 --> 01:04:14,100
deeper questions

1395
01:04:20,630 --> 01:04:17,790
can you beat that just pretty amazing in

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01:04:23,650 --> 01:04:20,640
a very short period of time one question

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01:04:26,570 --> 01:04:23,660
I up from this interview and that is

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what do you make of auras do you think

1399
01:04:34,130 --> 01:04:30,750
the aura thing is real and what is the

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relationship between auras and healing

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01:04:40,730 --> 01:04:38,610
if we can speculate about that so let me

1402
01:04:43,340 --> 01:04:40,740
know your thoughts to that question if

1403
01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:43,350
you want to connect with me and other

1404
01:04:46,550 --> 01:04:44,400
people from the show

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01:04:48,620 --> 01:04:46,560
I recommend the best place to do it is

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01:04:50,690 --> 01:04:48,630
the skeptical forum you'll definitely

1407
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:50,700
get an answer from me or you most likely

1408
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:52,650
though I'm on 90% you'll get an answer

1409
01:04:56,660 --> 01:04:54,210
for me if you've got a skeptical forum

1410
01:04:59,300 --> 01:04:56,670
I'm kind of hit or miss on other places

1411
01:05:01,640 --> 01:04:59,310
just depending on how all scattered I am

1412
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:01,650
but skeptical forum you'll find me and

1413
01:05:05,210 --> 01:05:03,810
some other really great people I have

1414
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:05,220
learned so much from just got to go for

1415
01:05:09,770 --> 01:05:07,530
them I always say that but if you do

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01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:09,780
want to check that out that's great it's

1417
01:05:13,730 --> 01:05:12,090
there for free and I hope you'll have a

1418
01:05:15,170 --> 01:05:13,740
good experience if you don't have a good

1419
01:05:17,090 --> 01:05:15,180
experience you want to know and we'll

1420
01:05:19,340 --> 01:05:17,100
get on the people who are getting in

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01:05:22,310 --> 01:05:19,350
your way so do check out the forum if

1422
01:05:24,740 --> 01:05:22,320
you're so inclined and of course check

1423
01:05:28,220 --> 01:05:24,750
out sceptical website for all our

1424
01:05:31,430 --> 01:05:28,230
previous shows over 400 of them again

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01:05:33,890 --> 01:05:31,440
they're all available there for free mp3

1426
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:33,900
download you can take them run with them

1427
01:05:40,550 --> 01:05:37,050
do what you like no firewall no ads any

1428
01:05:42,170 --> 01:05:40,560
of that check out skeptic Oh calm I have

1429
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:42,180
a number of shows coming up I have some

1430
01:05:46,670 --> 01:05:43,410
great ones already in the can that I

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01:05:47,780 --> 01:05:46,680
can't wait to get out to you I'm even

1432
01:05:50,090 --> 01:05:47,790
doing the show every week and I still

1433
01:05:52,940 --> 01:05:50,100
can't stop getting more and more content

1434
01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:52,950
content glut isn't there aren't you like

1435
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:54,480
me don't you find that there's so many

1436
01:05:59,690 --> 01:05:57,450
more shows to listen to then you can get

1437
01:06:01,190 --> 01:05:59,700
around to so you're gonna have to pick

1438
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:01,200
and choose but we all pick and choose

1439
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:02,730
you can pick the shows that you want to

1440
01:06:07,730 --> 01:06:04,890
listen to and hopefully I can offer you

1441
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:07,740
something that adds to your knowledge

1442
01:06:12,380 --> 01:06:10,650
base of course if you liked the show and

1443
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:12,390
feel a need to share the show that

1444
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:16,770
people who need it please do so and as